Standard appear to be making a comeback according to Zeal. Check there attention to detail, and more here! I don't know wether i'm to sure on their fork dropouts though. I was scared about the Macneil ones as it was, but Standard has taken this to another level! Anyway, they seem to have made their new frame 4.19 lbs, which is probably just about light enough for Bikeguide, so it should be all good.